First Lady Michelle Obama speaks about the difficulties senior women face in today’s health insurance market and the importance of reform. November 13, 2009. (Public Domain)

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bigtex501
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U.S. Bureau of …
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics..
FAILED obama ECONOMC$…

Unemployment rate JUMPS from 9.8% (15.1 MILLION) to….
10.2% (15.7 MILLION)

TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT….
JUMPS from 16.8% to 17.5% of the civilian population or 41.4 MILLION PEOPLE.

Of those that can’t ***afford*** to get H.C. insurance..
HOW MANY are DUE to NO JOBS?????

Michelle….
IT’S THE “ECONOMY STUPID”!!!

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
bigtex501
 2 

HR 3962
11-2-09

HR 3962
11-2-09
Congressional Budget Office..
estimates what “THE PLANS” will likely cost..

Individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance WILL PAY a $5,300 premium & an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses..
TOTAL OF $7,300 a year, OR…
***17% of HIS pre-tax income***!

A family earning $102,100 a year before taxes WILL PAY a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 in out-of-pocket expenses..
TOTAL OF $20,300, OR…
***20% of THEIR pre-tax income***!

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
bigtex501
 3 

H.R. 3962 & “DOC …
H.R. 3962 & “DOC FIX” Legislation
CBO..

NET INCREASE in FED DEFICITS..
$425 BILLION in Medicaid & CHIP
$605 BILLION in FED Subsidies
SUB TOTAL..
$1,055 billion in subsidies by exchanges & related spending!
+ $245 BILLION “DOC FIX”
= $1.3 TRILLION TOTAL!
Offsets - $167 billion in penalties paid by individuals & employers 10 years.
NET reduction in fed budget deficits of $104 billion over 2010-2019 period

With “DOC FIX”
GRAND TOTAL of Health Care Proposal?
$ 1,196,000,000,000.00!

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
bigtex501
 4 

$245 BILLION “DOC …
$245 BILLION “DOC FIX” Legislation
Sen. Stabenow (D-Mich)
“Dem leaders hoped to PASS THE PROPOSAL QUICKLY, so as to DISASSOCIATE it from the larger health reform proposal.”

“Were doing the doc fix (formula to pay doctors treating Medicare patients) first so as not to get it confused with health care reform,” Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said.
“Were going to try to pass it as an emergency-type of spending so that it DOESNT CONNECT to the health care reform bill & FIGURE IN AS A COST OF IT.”

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
bigtex501
 5 

Congressional …
Congressional Budget Office Reports
H.R. 3962
To REDUCE direct spending by $426 BILLION over the 2010 - 2019 period…
.. Permanent REDUCTIONS in the annual updates to MEDICARE’S payment rates for most services in the fee-for-service sector! (namely, the effects of those changes on payments to Medicare Advantage plans & collections of Part B premiums.) (SAVING $229 BILLION)
.. Setting payment rates in the MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PROGRAM on the basis of Medicare spending! (SAVING $170 BILLION)

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
qpwillie
 6 

I can’t believe how …
I can’t believe how far over your head that went!!!! You’re not real sharp, are you?

I’m talking about the entire bill; not a part of it.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Henroidt
 7 

You should show me …
You should show me where in the bill that this would be a proper metaphor.

I’ll be waiting.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
qpwillie
 8 

Henroidt, let me …
Henroidt, let me sell you a piece of property. You may not look at it before buying it.. The price…. well you’ll have to sign a contract that you’ll pay whatever I decide I want . Now hurry up and sign the contract!!!

You can’t say it’s a bad deal because you haven’t even seen the property.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
hkwyt92
 9 

who is the first …
who is the first woman spoken

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
canadaworldmusic
 10 

@ …
@soldieroffortune1974
“It was literaly thrown together over a week end” You know Health care reform has started more than 50 years ago and was in the 2 years long Presidential campaign.For some reason you don’t want any reform and nothing will change your mind.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Henroidt
 11 

So why don’t you …
So why don’t you point out where health care being affordable for people is something that’s good for us without explaining why. Or, maybe it doesn’t need explanation because it’s common sense.

The protests done by the tea-party movement don’t reflect the majority of the nation. Nor do they reflect some sort of “real Americans.” If anything they’ve been duped by the party that represented them. How many common-people Republicans are part of group that make 250k or more a year? Why do they care?

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
soldieroffortune1974
 12 

It is a bad thing …
It is a bad thing when congress is voting for bills that will effect American citizens,without reading or understanding what they are voting for.

It is inherently bad when politicians or anyone tells us what we have to do, because they say so or it’s “good for us” without being able to explain why.

It’s bad when the gov thinks it knows what’s best despite the adament protests by millions of Americans.

It’s bad when the gov basically says you will do it or pay the price

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Henroidt
 13 

And how can you be …
And how can you be so sure it is a bad thing? If nobody knows anything about it, then nobody can know if it is good or bad. To suggest it automatically means negativity is a leap in logic based on the bias that is “oh noes government.”

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
soldieroffortune1974
 14 

absolutely I would …
absolutely I would have to agree. I am grossly misinformed and constantly lied to by the government as well.

The problem is how can anyone say this is a good thing when noone knows anything about this health care reform bill. It was literaaly thrown together over a weekend, the parties voting on it, admittedly hadn’t read it because it was too confusing.

How can anyone be informed and agree to such a thing And think it’s going to be good for the US?

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Henroidt
 15 

Which ironically …
Which ironically includes you.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
soldieroffortune1974
 16 

No I didn’t go to …
No I didn’t go to public schools, so I can’t be stupid. I have been to the countries who implement this BS already.I have seen these plans in action, and it doesn’t fare well for the population. The only ones who gain anything from this is the doctors, insurance companies, and pharmaceutical companies.

I have already seen this fail numerous times. I have fought in 9 conflicts on 7 continents in the last 12 years. People are misinformed,the government lies and the people suffer.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
samkurz
 17 

Did you finish …
Did you finish Grade School or are you just stupid.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
soldieroffortune1974
 18 

There’s plenty of …
There’s plenty of entitlement look at food stamps, AFDC, welfare, Medicaide,medicare. The people who receive it think they are entitled to it.

Control is correct. You start having people think they are entitled to free hand outs, they will do anything you want to keep receiving the hand out.

The only governments who have government health care are the governments who constantly keep shooting their own citizens to keep them inline. Cuba comes to mind. Ever been there? Very similar to this

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
soldieroffortune1974
 19 

Let’s see if I can …
Let’s see if I can explain it in terms you might understand. The government has no right to tell the people what they can and can’t do. The government works FOR THE PEOPLE,not the other way around.

The only ones who will gain anything are the doctors, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies who are in support of this bill. They will make money while the money from it so they are lobbying for it.

2nd noone knows anything about this bill because noone has read it

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Ruinous
 20 

Of course not
Of course not

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Ruinous
 21 

Sorry there is no …
Sorry there is no entitlement for the lazy, free loader’s, and illegals aliens. This “reform” is all about control for the government. Wake up. If you wanna see healthcare for all. Go to Cuba and come back and tell me how that works out for ya.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Ruinous
 22 

The moment anyone …
The moment anyone is forced to buy this “insurance,” a breach of the constitution will have occured and Pelosi, along with Obama, will be like they deserve.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Ruinous
 23 

I’m sorry what …
I’m sorry what liberal source are your ignorant comments based on? There’s no point in knocking you for being a blissful idiot when it comes to what this “reform” actually is and will do. Noone wants nothing to be done. What is going on now will further destroy what is already established. People already go to the ER for health care.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
samkurz
 24 

I don’t understand …
I don’t understand why so many Americans could be
against helping getting health care for all American.
Look at what is happening with the system today.
Pretty soon most Americans will be going to Emergency
rooms for health care. The people who are fighting
this reform will have bad karma. You will see when you
don’t have health insurance.

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
soldieroffortune1974
 25 

Who cares what the …
Who cares what the rst of the world thinks, if we cared about that we would still be British.

This is the United States of AMERICA
Not the United States of the GLOBE, who cares what the rest think? Obviousely these jack who are doing everything possible to make us like Kenya, New Zealand, Cuba,Russia

Everywhere the citizens are controlled by the government We fought that war once, and will again if necessary

November 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am

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